Concern by illtone: Is there any option medication that has definitive proof of efficacy?
Option medication as defined by NCCAM. If so be sure to present any “conclusive” reports accepted by the national library of medicine that demonstrates statistically considerable optimistic outcomes which go outside of the threshold of the placebo influence.
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Response by fusepark
When that transpires, they phone it “medicine.” Excellent luck with your essay.
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Mostly, no. If it did, it would no longer be alternative. With that said, St Johns Wort has quite a bit of credible evidence supporting it. However, there are valid reasons why at this moment in time, Doctors are reluctant to prescribe it. In short, more data is needed before safe recommendations can be made.
Pretty much everything else (e.g. homeopathy, acupuncture, reiki and faith healing, etc) lacks scientific plausibility and has repeatedly failed high quality RCTs.
You should qualify: no pilot studies, no animal studies, large sample sizes, peer reviewed, properly blinded and controlled. Otherwise you’re going to get some chiropractor with a 7 subject pilot study ‘proving’ that chiropractic may help treat childhood asthma, or some homeopath with an in-house uncontrolled trial from India proving that homeopathic vaccines work.
Can’t wait to see the response!
sure, lots of it. but just because dope pushing quacks refuse to acknowledge it, that doesn’t invalidate it. your standards are a fraud. results are reality. your results stink, i don’t care what your bullshit “studies” say.
Dr Bach Flower Remedies have been used in many drastic cases and found most useful. it is not placebo effect . In a case of severe alopathic drug reaction the patient was believed to be help less to get well. But Rescue Remedy [Combination of Bach Flower Remedies], gave a good result.
If there is, I’ve yet to know about it.
This is a really good question. Will our alt med proponents rise to the challenge?
edit: 2 answers from alties. One is the usual BS answer from Mr. E, all bark, no bite. The OP asked for a study and you gave him nothing. If what you said was true, then cite one study please. To Surendar, you should cite a study that verifies what you just said.
edit 2: @dave: you forgot this: “Disinformation campaign! Big pharma! Shills! Sheeple!”
@nosey: The user is asking for studies.
The standard altie response:
A: It does work!
S: Remember we want to see some evidence?
A: Er….but it does work!
S: Sigh……….
Yes.
There’s quite a bit but you’ll have to do your own homework and be prepared to pay for the documents/subscription. Not everything is free on the internet. Conventional medical studies will cost you too, so there’s no disparity.
As far as Homeopathy is concerned you can pay for a downloadable e-book from Homeopathy Educatonal Services created by Dana Ullman.
http://blog.homeopathic.com/
You shouldn’t believe the disinformation campaigns sponsored by the drug companies who were the ones behind the notion of labelling anything non mainstream as “alternative”. Natural health practitioners call it holistic.
First let me translate one of the Altie answers for you
“Yes.
There’s quite a bit but you’ll have to do your own homework and be prepared to pay for the documents/subscription. Not everything is free on the internet” = NO I don’t have any.
If anyone wants to see research results in regards to alternative medicine, do it yourself! It doesn’t matter anyway on this forum if good quality results are brought to light as they are always rejected as a matter of principle by ‘skeptics’. They blind you with data and scientific ‘evidence’ which nicely accommodates their own delusional thinking. (In other words, they twist it around to suit how they would rather perceive things regardless of the facts). It is more than obvious and extremely transparent. Very unfortunate indeed.
Yes, tai chi improves fibromyalgia symptoms as published in the New England Journal of Medicine August 19, 2010 >>>http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa0912611
nope, when a treatment is demonstrably effective its just medicine, if the sellers of that treatment can’t prove its efficacy they label it alternative medicine.
No – but you will find plenty of claims from alties that there is. We don’t have to look further than Redangels answer to find an example of this. Okay – let’s be open minded and take a closer look at it. The linked abstract show us right away that a placebo group wasn’t included. And if we read the full article we realise, that the authors know that this is not a placebo controlled study.
In the discussion section they write:
” Our study had some limitations. We did not use a double-blind study design, since this would have required the use of sham tai chi, for which no validated approach currently exists”
And a bit further in the text:
“…..the development of some form of sham intervention for use in future studies of tai chi is a desirable goal”.
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